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1. What do we know about the MST3K Pilot and missing episodes?  (Updated 10/19/08)

The following information and pictures are taken from my own research, the MST3K Scrapbook tape and flashbacks or montage scenes in the KTMA episodes Superdome (K15) and Time of the Apes (K17).  

The key to putting the information together is tracking Joel's changing jumpsuits, t-shirts and hair styles.  I have also included a description of where various objects were placed on the desk.  This seems to be consistent from scene to scene and changed from episode to episode. We end up with the following guidelines:

Joel Description Desk Layout Items on Desk
joel-k00.jpg (3734 bytes) K00 - The Green Slime (Pilot)

Blue/green jumpsuit, blue/green t-shirt, long hair


The vase and platform move around between scenes in the pilot
 

 

          

joel-k01.jpg (4697 bytes) K01 - Invaders From The Deep

Blue/green jumpsuit, white t-shirt, long hair

joel-k02.jpg (4617 bytes) K02 - Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars

Beige jumpsuit, blue/green t-shirt, long hair

joel-k03.jpg (4136 bytes) K03 - Star Force: Fugitive Alien II

Beige jumpsuit, white t-shirt, long hair

joel-k04.jpg (5195 bytes) K04 - Gamera vs. Barugon

Beige jumpsuit, white t-shirt, short hair

(included for reference, since fan copies of this episode exist)

K00 - The Green Slime (Pilot) (filmed in October 1988)

As of 10/3/2008 we can no longer call the MST3K pilot a missing episode.  At Archon 32 in St Louis, MO the cast of Cinematic Titanic hosted a panel discussion.  Joel took the opportunity to show the complete pilot that he apparently had recently discovered he had a copy of.  Here is a detailed breakdown of what is seen in the pilot.

Just a few comments about some things we now know (or don't know):

  1. Even though the story line behind the show evolved quickly we now know that the Satellite of Love was the name of the ship from the beginning.
  2. We've known for quite a while that Joel appeared as Joel Hodgson (not Robinson) and that he was joined by Crow and Beeper, who would soon be replaced by Servo.  We now know that Gypsy, not Gypsum, was there from the beginning.  One difference is that Gypsy was a boy robot.
  3. Does anyone else think it's strange that in some segments Joel keeps referring to "people of earth", "your planet" and "your president."  I realize this was just a test, but it sort of makes him sound like an alien visiting our planet.
  4. Very little of the film The Green Slime was used.   We have, however, seen a short clip of Joel saying one riff that was not included in the pilot.  Before the title of the movie even appears an asteroid shows up on the screen.  When a character says "That's an asteroid" Joel points to it and says "That's no asteroid!  It's a battle station!"  We have also seen Joel's silhouette over the movie title.  Makes me wonder if more of the movie was riffed on, but not used in the actual pilot tape.  It seems that a longer theater segment would have been produced even if just to try out the shadowrama effect.  Based on the what we now know about the pilot the first host segment could have been almost nine minutes long.  None of the others could have been more than a minute and a half. I guess now I have something else to try to track down.
       
                                                

  5. At the end of the fifth host segment Joel says "We got movie sign" for the first time.
  6. There was no opening theme.  As the story goes Jim showed the pilot to someone (perhaps it was Don O'Conner from KTMA) who suggested that it needed a theme song to explain the premise of the show (just like Gilligan's Island).  Joel and Josh wrote the theme over lunch and came up with the line "his bosses didn't like him so they shot him into space."  That was the birth of the mad scientists.  Up until then the idea was that Joel had launched himself into space.

After selling the show to KTMA general manager Don O'Conner, a 1.5 minute sales tape was made in early November to be used as an advertisement of the upcoming premiere on Thanksgiving Day.  The tape mentions The Green Slime and Thunderbirds to the Rescue, although neither would actually be used for a KTMA episode.   Also, the quick shots from a supermarionation film are not from either of the films used for K01 or K02.  They are from Thunderbirds in Outer Space, which at one time had been rumored to be an early KTMA episode and actually appeared in the KTMA TV listings on 11-24-88 as the first episode shown at 6PM.  The sales tape still uses the THEATRE spelling, but the set now has the red/orange lighting and the new doorway sequence is included.  There are scenes from the pilot, but no new clips from any other KTMA episodes though.

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K01 - Invaders From the Deep (aired 11/24/88 at 6 PM)

In the first host segment Joel informs us that the guys at the station ( not the mads) sent him a facsimile telling him the next movie is Invaders From the Deep (as seen in a flashback segment in K17).  Joel is joined in the theater in at least one segment by Crow to watch this Gerry and Sylvia Anderson supermarionation film (as seen during the KTMA opening theme).  Now that we have seen the complete KTMA pilot we know that the story line of Joel taking care of vacuum flowers that contract a space virus that spreads through the crew was reused in K01.  I have included some pictures from the pilot to compare with the shots from K01.  This also explains why we have seen some pictures of Crow with strange tubes running up to his neck.

(Note: The gray vase and the platform under it on the desk are also seen during The Crawling Hand (106) when Joel mentions "vacuum-flowers" once again.)

k01-1.jpg (21801 bytes)    k01-title.jpg (20222 bytes)      k01-2.jpg (15415 bytes)

 k01-3.jpg (25576 bytes)     K01 images     k01-5.jpg (18732 bytes)

     Pilot images    

Note: I believe the photo at the bottom of this page of Joel holding a pot with flowers made out of chattering teeth is from this episode.  Notice the location of the vase and the button panel.  Also, the pictures of Crow from this episode (see below) all have strange tubes running down from his neck.  These seem to have only been used in this episode to recreate the spraying foam effect used in the pilot.

Note 2: I have no proof that Servo appeared in this episode other than that is what MSTies have always been told by the fine folks at Best Brains.

K02 - Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars (aired 11/24/88 at 8 PM)

Joel and Crow do the opening segment where they discuss the Macy's parade (from Scrapbook Tape).    We don't know who did the theater segments for this episode.  There was another host segment where Gypsy is holding some gourds in her mouth which she deposits on the desk (seen during the K15 montage).

k02-1.jpg (21198 bytes)     k02-2.jpg (19096 bytes)     k02-title.jpg (20179 bytes)

k02-3.jpg (18899 bytes)     k02-4.jpg (19891 bytes)     k02-5.jpg (21562 bytes)

        Note: I have no proof that Servo appeared in this episode either.

Note 2: It has always bothered me a little how different Joel's hair looks from the opening scene with Crow to the scene with Gypsum and Crow.  Maybe it's nothing.

K03 - Star Force: Fugitive Alien II (aired 11/27/88 at 6 PM)

Just three days after the Thanksgiving double feature premiere another episode aired.  All three had been prepared in advance and the KTMA opening was filmed at approximately the same time as K03 (since Joel matches his appearance from this show).  Sources tell us that the opening was completed and used for the 11/24/88 premiere.  One host segment has Crow explaining Thanksgiving to Gypsy and another shows Joel using his num-clucks (from Scrapbook Tape and KTMA opening theme respectively).  Another segment has Crow and Servo with clothes pins on their noses.  Originally I thought this was from K01, but I've changed my mind, particularly due to the lighting of the set and the fact that Crow does not have any tubes running from his neck as seen in the pictures at the bottom of this page.  

Joel, Crow and Servo were all in the theater for this episode.  We know this from a few seconds seen during the Comedy Channel pitch tape included on the Scrapbook Tape.  The telephone call-in line must have been added for this episode since in K04 a caller references that it is 11/27.

k03-1.jpg (23067 bytes)     k03-2.jpg (22622 bytes)   k03-title.jpg (24160 bytes)

k03-3.jpg (18141 bytes)     k03-4.jpg (21028 bytes)     k03-5.jpg (20901 bytes)

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Note: I believe the picture at the bottom of the page of Crow and Gypsy is from this episode.  Notice the location of the vase, button panel and even the pen on the desk.  The position of these objects is also why I'm fairly sure the num-cluck segment is from this episode.

The additional shots used in the KTMA opening were filmed either immediately before or after K03.  Those scenes are of Joel polishing switches, the quick shot of Joel, Crow and Gypsy in the theater and Joel with the demon dogs.  We have been told that the demon dogs were never used in an episode until season 1.

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K04 - Gamera vs. Barugon (aired 12/4/88 at 6 PM)

This is the earliest episode fans have a copy of and can therefore be used as a reference point in the history of the show.  Joel was sporting a new, short haircut.  The show was obviously taped after the original three since the caller messages are played.  This episode also has the earliest scenes we have of Servo talking we have heard to date.  He used an unusual Kermit the Frog type voice.

k04-1.jpg (21192 bytes)     k04-2.jpg (18906 bytes)     k04-3.jpg (18475 bytes)

Some other potential resources for information that have not proven successful to date are:

That covers the results of the investigation so far.  If anyone has any further information or would like to suggest additions or modifications to the information above please contact  Tom Noel

Like many fans we will never be entirely satisfied until we have copies of all of these episodes.  Until then keep reaching for the stars.

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For your viewing enjoyment here are a few other pictures from those early days.  Pictures A, B, C, D and E were all taken the same day as the filming of Invaders From The Deep (K01) due to Joel's costume and the fact that they all show strange tubes running out of Crow's neck.  Picture F was taken during the filming of Star Force: Fugitive Alien II (K03) due to the location of the objects on the desk.  The final picture, G, is of Kevin performing the voice of Cambot, but I still don't know which episode it was in.:

A.ktmapic-1.jpg (72346 bytes)     B.ktmacast.jpg (42358 bytes)

 C.KTMA-color2b.jpg (79043 bytes) 

D.        E.

F.ktmapic-2.jpg (57326 bytes)          G.   cambot.jpg (16638 bytes)

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